What made you want to get into refereeing?
"It's a way to give back to the game. I'm too old to play basketball competitively but I can still referee. It keeps me active and connected to the game. I have a vocation to make a living and this is my vocation. I do it because I enjoy it. There are some nights that it's difficult because I have a wife and three children, and sometimes I don't get back home before my kids go to bed. They get it and they support me."