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PittCountyPride
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Mike13 wrote:
WK, are these the lamentations of one who knows the lukewarm Republican establishment is under judgment for nominating Mitt Mormon?
"This is part of the problem the Republican Party is having........churchy right says do it my way or there's moral judgment........you're WRONG........No ideas, no discussion, just swift exclusion.........a certain uninformed narrow view wins the day with these folks.........." =================================================== First, you criticize the "churchy right" (whoever they are!) for them (according to you) saying "do it my way" and for (what you call) their "moral judgment", then you lament their supposedly "uninformed narrow views"... Later you condemn the entire Republican establishment, saying they are "under judgment" for nominating a Mormon for president and you want them to do it YOUR way... "Churchy right", meet "Mikey-Liberal-atarian", two birds of one feather -- both complete with "moral judgment", "do it my way" and "uninformed narrow views"... You're a true believer, Mikey... A true believer... And not a hypocritical bone in your entire body either... You won't be happy until Washington is invaded, sacked, burned, razed, plowed under and then sown in briars, brambles and coca burrs... That's not a bad idea, now that I think about it... LOL.
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it may overtake me." Maj. Gen. Thomas J. Jackson, 1862.
Mike13
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PittCountyPride wrote:
"This is part of the problem the Republican Party is having........churchy right says do it my way or there's moral judgment........you're WRONG........No ideas, no discussion, just swift exclusion.........a certain uninformed narrow view wins the day with these folks.........." =================================================== First, you criticize the "churchy right" (whoever they are!) for them (according to you) saying "do it my way" and for (what you call) their "moral judgment", then you lament their supposedly "uninformed narrow views"... Later you condemn the entire Republican establishment, saying they are "under judgment" for nominating a Mormon for president and you want them to do it YOUR way... "Churchy right", meet "Mikey-Liberal-atarian", two birds of one feather -- both complete with "moral judgment", "do it my way" and "uninformed narrow views"... You're a true believer, Mikey... A true believer... And not a hypocritical bone in your entire body either... You won't be happy until Washington is invaded, sacked, burned, razed, plowed under and then sown in briars, brambles and coca burrs... That's not a bad idea, now that I think about it... LOL.
Ok, so we agree on re-imaging DC......lol........ No hypocrisy here, my friend.......You will note the question mark at the end of my query with WK.........I solicited her opinion on the matter......Were someone to ask Mikey, I'd say you can't expect the Almighty to bless a political party who chooses a heathen as it's leader, that's pretty obvious.........Sowing, reaping......
PittCountyPride
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Mike13 wrote:
Ok, so we agree on re-imaging DC......lol........ No hypocrisy here, my friend.......You will note the question mark at the end of my query with WK.........I solicited her opinion on the matter......Were someone to ask Mikey, I'd say you can't expect the Almighty to bless a political party who chooses a heathen as it's leader, that's pretty obvious.........Sowing, reaping......
You got the "sowing, reaping..." quote from the churchy-right, Mikey. You should be quoting Ayn Rand. LOL.
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it may overtake me." Maj. Gen. Thomas J. Jackson, 1862.
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PittCountyPride wrote:
You got the "sowing, reaping..." quote from the churchy-right, Mikey. You should be quoting Ayn Rand. LOL.
We disagree........I say "sowing,reaping" comes from God's Word, not the churchy-right or any other religious sect.......I will quote the Bible.....
PittCountyPride
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Mike13 wrote:
We disagree........I say "sowing,reaping" comes from God's Word, not the churchy-right or any other religious sect.......I will quote the Bible.....
You invented the term "churchy right"... Who are they?
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it may overtake me." Maj. Gen. Thomas J. Jackson, 1862.
Mike13
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PittCountyPride wrote:
You invented the term "churchy right"... Who are they?
Actually, I didn't.......lol, but if the shoe fits.........
PittCountyPride
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Mike13 wrote:
Actually, I didn't.......lol, but if the shoe fits.........
The "churchy-right" are millions of Christians who oppose the legalization of marijuana, abortion, same-sex "marriage" and prostitution, right? I'll wear it unashamedly,... if the shoe fits... LOL. Matthew 5: [14] Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. [15] Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. [16] Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people." (Proverbs 14:34)
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it may overtake me." Maj. Gen. Thomas J. Jackson, 1862.
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PittCountyPride wrote:
The "churchy-right" are millions of Christians who oppose the legalization of marijuana, abortion, same-sex "marriage" and prostitution, right? I'll wear it unashamedly,... if the shoe fits... LOL. Matthew 5: [14] Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. [15] Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. [16] Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people." (Proverbs 14:34)
LOL.....so now PCP has re-invented "churchy right"........We may have to disagree....... I see the churchy right as political, not (necessarily) Christian......An example would be that Mormons, while not Christian, would fit your above description........The churchy right wing of the Republican Party are also not necessarily known for being small government, fiscal conservatives, but rather for attempting to legislate their version of morality without regard to the Constitutionality of the issue.......
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Mike13 wrote:
WK, are these the lamentations of one who knows the lukewarm Republican establishment is under judgment for nominating Mitt Mormon?
Oh my... what knowledge does come to mind just deciding on how to answer that question for you, Mike. Please do allow me to answer although if I were to be complete about it, it might take a week or more and reams long. WK5 Lamentations, oh boy... over 15 years of nothing but. When I began this phase of the journey the Lord kept my head/heart on Jeremiah and Jonah. In the beginning, I did not understand why but He cleared up all the purposes. A full decade of training on how to lament... "These" lamentations are for the whole of our nation. Our citizenry and our governance... who find themselves under judgment as a whole. Never lose sight of that fact, first and foremost. Mitt Romney was not my pick for many reasons. From the get go... I knew the most proper/righteous/great POTUS pick. Though he didn't run, he was on the ticket as VP. 2-3 years ago I might have thought similarly as you about Romney, but in ignorance. The only thing I knew about the group was they had a great choir and once upon a time believed men should have several wives, not just one - which they corrected themselves on. Pity other Christians don't do the same kinds of correcting things too for I can certainly pick out things that Christians in general have overlooked and/or flat out ignore. Which is why I always do my homework to better understand, especially when placing a vote. Have you studied the Book of Mormon? After having studied their beliefs rather fully, their purposes, habits, etc. I have found that in many ways they are following Jesus Christ more fully than right many. They seem to be blessed because of it. Holy scripture of The KJV is their book, along with particular things extra that they believe also happened later. I don't know about agreeing with them on those extra things but it does seem to follow along evenso -- as true friends of Jesus Christ and not enemies. There are other Christian denominations I rather question a lot more than Romney's particular beliefs. I go to my Bible and prayer/meditation/listening for clarification personally. However, they do believe fully and do not seek to bring any question against scripture of the Bible. I have seen you seek to bring such doubt and question against our Holy Bible. Which in truth helps me have right much more against you than Mormon followers who practice Christianity in a more thorough fashion. And they do live up to the faith and I admire many of their wise ways. So no, I came to understand something more and knew voting for Mitt Romney was not as you describe it. I would say Mike that it is you that have deluded your own self along with others who helped blindly/deafly get Obama elected and to supposedly "teach a lesson" to the Republicans. And what do I think about that? I lament for you and those like you Mike... because what you don't seem to get is that in your own confusions, you don't see what God is allowing for in order to provide correctional hope for a hurting and lost nation of people who were given much in blessing and have turned away from God. Look at what you just help elect afterall? YOU Mike, helped elect a group of people that have been first and foremost instrumental in trying/moving/influencing/forcing to REMOVE the Lord Jesus from this American landscape. People that are trying to SQUASH OUT even the mention of him. I can think of far better and higher ways to teach lessons, although I believe that job is God's alone and I can assure you these days God has right many issues with every group of people within the American fabric of existence. All are indeed falling shorter than usual and picking up speed in several groups it would seem. I never knew Mitt Romney to be embarrassed about believing in the Lord nor embarrassed to practice His ways and try to live The Way. And still they manage also to be tolerant... not influenced by, but welcoming/loving of those whom believe differently. So of course I understand now more fully than I did about 15 years ago just why the Lord put me into study and learning from just about every direction... what he worked within Jeremiah in his time and Jonah for me as well. God thoroughly grounded them both into me for quite some time and now I understand why. Today and for the last few years... God has put me more fully in touch with Isaiah, King David, Psalms... and for all your sakes as well as mine, He's keeping me planted firmly in Ephesians as well. Mike? My prayer for you this day as always and from hereon? I pray for the Lord to help you with discernment. The nation as a whole is under judgment... and I am lamenting... I am working with others to warn... and I appeal to those who have been greatly blessed and ask them/wrestle with them to return to God and the foundations of this nation where people understood the importance of it all. For whom? For us all. Conservatives of all various sorts need to unite under the truths they say they believe in and be willing to STAND with the POWER of what truth can be. I remind all Conservative Christians? If we don't do it, who will? You believe it will turn to good things and bright futures by following Satan and the confused... the drugged... the desperate... the lost? If found... then let's unite and put aside petty differences to form one huge bond -- the only One that matters. God will take care of the rest in due time. Mike? I have witnessed you bringing question upon God's Holy Word on more than one occasion. I suggest you put yourself in better order and maybe you can see/hear more clearly.
"In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst." C.S. Lewis
PittCountyPride
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Mike13 wrote:
LOL.....so now PCP has re-invented "churchy right"........We may have to disagree....... I see the churchy right as political, not (necessarily) Christian......An example would be that Mormons, while not Christian, would fit your above description........The churchy right wing of the Republican Party are also not necessarily known for being small government, fiscal conservatives, but rather for attempting to legislate their version of morality without regard to the Constitutionality of the issue.......
Sounds like yet another slur against Bible believing Christians to me, not Mormons... Without biblical morality, there would be no U.S. Constitution. It was intended to be interpreted alongside the Bible, not separate from it. If a godless constitution is desired, look no further than the USSR. Somebody's morality will be legislated. The only question is who will do it, the godly or the ungodly...
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it may overtake me." Maj. Gen. Thomas J. Jackson, 1862.

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