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Equal
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Mike13 wrote:
Chill, Louis.......That's just Yogi reaching out to LadyReb...........again, lol........Bears don't give up easy.............I think the rebster playin' hard to get kinda turns him on........... Mikey's met him.........Trust me, he's all male........a decent chap.......
I have yet to meet Sir Yogi, but I know he's the kind of fellow that I would like. He's possibly more abrasive than I am and maybe even more sarcastic.
Ham and eggs....A days work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.
louis
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Mike13 wrote:
Chill, Louis.......That's just Yogi reaching out to LadyReb...........again, lol........Bears don't give up easy.............I think the rebster playin' hard to get kinda turns him on........... Mikey's met him.........Trust me, he's all male........a decent chap.......
Oh, I know that he is OK. It was just my feeble attempt to pull his chain a bit. I enjoy his posts. I guess I have got to figure out a way to signal my intent. Perhaps a happy face at the end. I don't know.
"You can teach a man to drink, but he will have to learn to pee on his own." -Louis
I am noticing the bear doesn't post much lately............Nor does LadyReb..........hmmmmmmmmmmm........coincidence? They both seem to be busy at the same time.............. ;-)
More muslim deception....... http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/07/22/liberal-media-love-new-jesus-book-zealot-fail-to-mention-author-is-muslim/ They're messin' with the wrong Guy........
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So a Coptic Christian makes fun of Mohammed and they want him in jail (not to mention blaming him for Benghazi) but a Muslim can denigrate Christ and they line up to pat him on the back. Yep, confirms everything I've ever thought about the Liberals.
"In liberal logic, if life is unfair then the answer is to turn more tax money over to politicians, to spend in ways that will increase their chances of getting reelected." Thomas Sowell
Mike13
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God's man turns 95........ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/11/07/billy-graham-95th-birthday-party-final-sermon/3464537/ I weep with you, Billy........
PittCountyPride
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Demosthenes wrote: My friend, again, I mean no disrespect to you or your faith, but I cannot share your interpretation and be true to the commands God gave me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PCP: But, my friend, no disrespect to your position, but you CAN share my interpretation and be true to God. Hear me out... You have listed two excellent examples of so-called "contradictions in the Bible" which can so easily be explained... 99.9% of such "contradictions" can be eliminated with a little thought and investigation. For that .1% that can't be, I trust God because God cannot lie... To answer your first "contradiction", Jesus was on the cross for hours. During that period of time, he made a number of statements, seven which were recorded in the scriptures. These statements were given over a period of time, with each Bible writer only recording a portion of what Jesus said. No writer claimed to provide a full and complete narrative transcript of ALL Jesus said while He was hanging on the cross. Indeed, Jesus made each of those statements, at different times, and THEN he "gave up the ghost" (or died), just as the Bible said. He may have said, "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" and then shortly thereafter said, "It is finished. Into thy hands I commend my spirit,", with one writer recording one sentence and other writers recording others. ALL of these words are what Jesus said as He lay dying on the cross... No contradiction... Only John was physically present at the foot of the cross and we don't know if he was there the entire time. These writers were investigators and reporters, not necessarily eyewitnesses, but what they said were true because it is recorded in God's Word, the Bible, which is ALWAYS true because God cannot lie. It's no different from Stonewall Jackson's dying words at Guinea Station, Va. in 1863. At different times on his deathbed that Sunday afternoon, he said, "Strike the tent!" and called on A.P. Hill "... to prepare for action! Pass the infantry to the front rapidly! Tell Major Hawks..." The attending physician also recorded these words of Jackson, "It is the Lord's Day; my wish is fulfilled. I have always desired to die on Sunday." At the very end, Jackson was reported saying, "Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees." Then he died. What were Jackson's dying words? If different people heard separate statements from Stonewall Jackson at different times as he lay dying and recorded them separately, would that be contradictory? I think not. They are ALL Jackson's dying words... The issue is a little different in the following texts: "And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." and "No man hath seen God at any time." "Face to face" is simply an idiom that means "person-to-person", not Moses' face to God's face. The Bible clarifies it, "... as a man speaketh to a friend." Re-read the text, Demosthenes, and you'll discover the Bible NEVER says Moses actually "saw" God. Can two people be "face-to-face" without one seeing the other? YES!!! Moses may have seen a cloud or a burning bush or something else, not God's face. If you talk to your wife on the phone, are you talking "person-to-person" to her without actually observing her physical face? You might even use an idiom to say you talked to her face-to-face even if you were talking to her on the phone... There is no big mystery here, my friend, no contradiction, only an idiom... The Bible is to be taken as a whole and in context, Demosthenes. Every portion of it has a literal truth. The message of God is interwoven into it, with truth being revealed a little at a time, one writer revealing only a portion of the truth and another writer adding to that truth... A baby can't understand the steps for making a cake, but a mature adult can. I Corinthians 13:9-12 says, "For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." It's all about biblical maturity and studying the Bible, Demosthenes. For every so-called contradiction in the Bible, there is an explanation, if you seek it. On the other hand, explanations are illusive IF you don't really seek them... Maybe you should consider changing your personal Bible passage to II Timothy 2:15... "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it may overtake me." Maj. Gen. Thomas J. Jackson, 1862.
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You cannot claim interpretative reading and literalness in the same breath my friend. Either the Bible is literal or it is not. If parts of it are open to interpretation then all of it is. I don't have a problem with the contradictions for myself because I don't look at every word as literal. I believe that if you look deeply, those contradictions are, as you said, able to be explained. Where it becomes problematic is when the Bible is supposed to be perfectly literal all the time. In those cases, the contradictions cannot be explained because it requires an interpretive reading of the Bible to explain them.
"In liberal logic, if life is unfair then the answer is to turn more tax money over to politicians, to spend in ways that will increase their chances of getting reelected." Thomas Sowell
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Demosthenes wrote:
You cannot claim interpretative reading and literalness in the same breath my friend. Either the Bible is literal or it is not. If parts of it are open to interpretation then all of it is.
Yes I can... You don't understand what I mean when we say literal... When Jesus said, "I am the vine and you are the branches...", did He literally mean He WAS a vine and we ARE His branches or did He means He is LIKE a vine and we are LIKE his branches????? The Bible is a mystery, my friend, a love letter from God to His children. Every word in the Bible has a literal meaning for God's children...
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it may overtake me." Maj. Gen. Thomas J. Jackson, 1862.
PittCountyPride
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Demosthenes wrote: You cannot claim interpretative reading and literalness in the same breath my friend. Either the Bible is literal or it is not. If parts of it are open to interpretation then all of it is. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PCP: Yes I can... You don't understand what I mean when we say literal... When Jesus said, "I am the vine and you are the branches...", did He literally mean He WAS a vine and we ARE His branches or did He means He is LIKE a vine and we are LIKE his branches????? The Bible is a mystery, my friend, a love letter from God to His children. Every word in the Bible has a literal meaning for God's children...
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it may overtake me." Maj. Gen. Thomas J. Jackson, 1862.

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